When I think of all the money going towards temples with exclusive entrance, the billions in a hedge fund, I definitely feel like the church is just creating a tribe.
Cheers to weekly posts! I teach my students to dialogue rather than debate. In that process, I also teach then to address ideas with questions, not people. It is complicated though because sometimes people will attack people- for being who they are- under the guise of attacking ideas and I think this is really harmful
I think the only way through is to recognize that most people are a bit of both, and to find ways of connecting that will lead to some progress.
"sometimes people will attack people- for being who they are- under the guise of attacking ideas and I think this is really harmful." Such a great nuance to bring to this dialogue Mary- thank you! I'm still chewing on it.
These thoughts have been going through my head the last few days. When I think of the ways members and my bishop offered pastoral care it was in ways I just really didn't need or want. All I could do was have compassion for them. After all...I think many are trying their best. They are only doing what they have been taught to do. How can I be upset with them? Being able to distinguish between the members and the institution is crucial to healing relationships and being able to continue to interact with members if they are still in your family/circles.
So validating to see my own journey reflected in your much more articulate words, especially the 2023 update. I'm still in the fiery darts to the heart when I drive past a temple, phase, and actively reminding myself its the institution to blame in order to maintain relationships with TBM friends and family, but its hard to interact with all the layers of judgement coming at me.
When I think of all the money going towards temples with exclusive entrance, the billions in a hedge fund, I definitely feel like the church is just creating a tribe.
I agree. It's hard to see otherwise.
Cheers to weekly posts! I teach my students to dialogue rather than debate. In that process, I also teach then to address ideas with questions, not people. It is complicated though because sometimes people will attack people- for being who they are- under the guise of attacking ideas and I think this is really harmful
I think the only way through is to recognize that most people are a bit of both, and to find ways of connecting that will lead to some progress.
"sometimes people will attack people- for being who they are- under the guise of attacking ideas and I think this is really harmful." Such a great nuance to bring to this dialogue Mary- thank you! I'm still chewing on it.
These thoughts have been going through my head the last few days. When I think of the ways members and my bishop offered pastoral care it was in ways I just really didn't need or want. All I could do was have compassion for them. After all...I think many are trying their best. They are only doing what they have been taught to do. How can I be upset with them? Being able to distinguish between the members and the institution is crucial to healing relationships and being able to continue to interact with members if they are still in your family/circles.
I've found the same thing Chelsea. Well said.
So validating to see my own journey reflected in your much more articulate words, especially the 2023 update. I'm still in the fiery darts to the heart when I drive past a temple, phase, and actively reminding myself its the institution to blame in order to maintain relationships with TBM friends and family, but its hard to interact with all the layers of judgement coming at me.